March 9, 2025
Tariffs, Tributes, and Automotive Innovation
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During this episode of In Wheel Time, we explore the evolving automotive landscape through technological innovations and economic challenges affecting the industry today. The future of automotive visibility takes center stage as we examine how camera-based systems are poised to replace traditional side-view mirrors.
• Tribute to legendary car builder Gene Winfield who recently passed away in his 90s
• Discussion of automotive tariffs and their impact on car companies with cross-border operations
• Examination of the one-month exemption for automakers from 25% tariffs on Canada and Mexico
• Deep dive into side camera mirror systems and their advantages over traditional mirrors
• Analysis of potential downsides to camera systems including higher costs and adaptation challenges
• Exploration of how tariffs affect automotive supply chains and manufacturing processes
• Reflection on Gene Winfield's contributions to car customization and his legacy in automotive culture
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Welcome to another In Wheel Time podcast, a 30-minute mini version of the In Wheel Time Car Show that airs live every Saturday morning 8 to 11 am Central.
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You've got the In Wheel Time Car Talk Show coming up.
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Pardon, I said hoo-hoo, hoo-hoo, wait a minute.
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That's a sound effect button.
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I've got over here.
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There you go, coming up.
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We're going to try to talk to Zen Master Ulysses Garcia and get the latest on the JDM stuff.
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But I figured out what the problem is he's not here, he's on Japanese time.
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Oh, so it's a different hour.
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Oh, it was yesterday.
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Then Jeff's going to bring us some car culture with side view mirrors.
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Cameras, yeah, cameras, side view mirror cameras, they're the same, but they're just cameras.
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I like them.
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Mr Mars reviews the 2025, chevy, colorado.
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He's going.
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Well, wait a minute, he's not here.
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Yeah he's here.
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He stepped outside.
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He takes some sort of highly important phone call.
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Howdy, along with Mike out of this world, mars, we always need more.
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Jeff Zekin, chief Engineer David Ainsley I'm Don Armstrong, glad you could join us on this Saturday morning.
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We're recording this on a Friday.
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Yeah, there you go.
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I was going to say how are we going to do that?
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Well, we're recording this on a Friday, so if you're watching on a Saturday at our regular time right on, If not, then you're watching now and congratulations, you found us.
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Yep.
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But we're live somewhere, aren't we?
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Yeah?
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somewhere, somewhere.
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Well, we think we are, because Mars isn't over there doing his thing.
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I think we're live in.
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Tahiti, really, yeah.
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Do they have cars in Tahiti?
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I don't know.
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We'll be there next week, all right.
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So, since we don't have a zoom, person zoom guest though.
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Should I walk out there and get him?
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No, you could tap dance here by yourself, but um, we were supposed to have ulysses garcia jdm master.
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Mr marv put ulysses garcia black belt jdm master.
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Yeah, he's like the guru of jd.
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Jdm is Japanese domestic market.
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Yeah, and why is it popular?
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Hopefully I'll look at some of his projects.
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We had it all lined up for you, but I think Ulysses is sleeping in.
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Yeah, he probably had a late night.
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Could have been.
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Yeah, he's still clubbing, doing some sort of either that or some parking lot takeoff.
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He doesn't do that.
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No, he goes to the drag strip.
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Well, he was a racer.
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Yeah the drag strip.
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Yeah, drag strip.
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I don't know if he might be drifting too.
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No well, I don't think so Could be, yeah, bragging about eighth mile times.
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Oh, okay, you know that's the new thing Quarter mile, quarter mile, 1320.
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The other thing is that we wanted to bring up right out of the box this morning and you may or may not know or recognize the name Gene Winfield, and Gene Winfield passed away a couple days ago and we've had him on this show several times when we were at Autorama and the past few years he hasn't been doing well enough to travel and come to find out that he's had cancer and I don't know whether that was the exact cause of death, but at any rate he was, I don't know, early 90s, I believe mid-90s somewhere in there and still working every day that he could.
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Gene Winfield was an extraordinary car builder forward- cars guru, I guess he was a.
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He was a world war ii guy and he was one of the first hot rodders came back from the from the war and in the late 40s started his own shop and did some pretty amazing things and cars that you would recognize.
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Uh, he was known for his creations and, a matter of fact, he's made appearances on all the latest hot rod shows that are yeah and uh.
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It's always good to see him and it's a shame we're not going to see him anymore.
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But, um, great guy, very approachable, yeah, um, and'll never forget.
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I think we had the biggest stand-up audience when we had him on our show at Autorama.
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It was quite amazing.
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And he would bring his team in and they would have a separate area and he would actually do a chop of a vehicle live in front of everybody, yes, and they would have the welders, the grinders, the guys measuring, and they were young guys, they weren't, I want to say students of the craft of the trade, but he would guide them and he would explain the step-by-steps as they're chopping a top off of 50 Chryslers.
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And I think that that's what he was really known for is how to chop a car, because it's not just taking a sawzall and going after it.
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And it's not just the roof.
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You can section a car, you can widen a car, and it's not just the roof.
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You can section a car, you can widen a car, you can chop and widen a car as well.
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So there's a lot of technical ability there, and he was the best he was.
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And he did all of it by eyesight and experience.
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And I'm sure that he made lots of mistakes early on.
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But, boy, I'll tell you what he pulled it out in the end.
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And he was a big guy in the industry, but he wasn't a big guy in stature, he was a smaller man.
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Wiry, yeah, wiry Well, climbing in and out of his car you got to be Exactly, and I think that that's what kept him going as long as he did, because he was always very active and always doing all sorts of things.
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He lived out in Arizona, didn't he?
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No, I think that he lived in the desert of California.
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Okay, I think he lived in the desert of California.
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Okay, I think he lived in the Mojave Desert.
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Yeah, okay.
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Mike's back.
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What was the thumbs up for?
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He did.
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He lived in the Mojave Desert.
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Yeah, we're just wondering where you've been.
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Are we even on the air?
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Yes, we are, I think.
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I hope we got you there.
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Mike, we got you there, been taking care of business, business, business.
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Well, it is a.
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Friday, and we explained to everybody that it is Friday.
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Speaking of business, we're doing this show live on Friday for playback on our regular time slot, saturday 10 to noon.
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Yes, so no matter whether you're watching it live now or you're watching it live but recorded on Saturday, there's there's many elements to all of this.
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Plus, let's not forget that this is going to be the spring forward, fall back kind of weekend yeah, so I was trying to explain that to my granddaughters and they said what?
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yeah, well, it'll become important to them when they get old, like us, because when you have a clock that changes by an entire hour, it screws up the next two weeks.
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So, grandpa, are you going to fall?
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forward right after this fifth, that's it.
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But they ask me why, why do we do that?
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I got no answer.
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Well, I think that originally it was for the farmers.
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And one of the things they said was for safety, like in the big cities, because people aren't in the dark so much or no daylight.
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You know they have all kinds of excuses.
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Yes, it was for the farmers.
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Yeah, yeah, because it gave them more daylight, uh, in the afternoons and the evenings, so they could work the crops in the fields.
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Then we're not talking about the wintertime.
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Now that has changed that.
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Now it's what every six months, but it used to not be that way.
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It used to be a summer thing.
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Yes, for the farm area, true, yeah so I lived in that era and in that part of the country, farmer don no, but dad, dad was anyway.
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So obviously ulysssses Garcia didn't get the message that I left for him, didn't get the message that you left for him.
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Either that or he's ignoring us, which we're very familiar with.
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Oh, he got the message.
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I don't think he's ignoring us, because he was very receptive to being here.
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I mean, we talked about it and he was oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Maybe he's been arrested.
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Or maybe he's still racing or something.
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No, no.
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Not on Friday morning.
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Maybe he's hard at work.
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Could be Very possible Throwing elbows around in the garage.
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Very possible, very possible.
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The other thing I wanted to talk about was the tariff fiasco.
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I got a story here, I gotta find it, um, but the president had all good intentions, I think, but he didn't really think it through until the big three automakers went to him, apparently last week, and said mr president, it's not gonna work.
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Well, it'll, it'll work, we'll try to make it work, but it's going to cost everybody lots of money.
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And I think that the bottom line was that the $10,000, roughly $10,000 increase in a car that's, you know, $50,000, that's going to put a lot of people out of the market.
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Big percentage yeah a lot of people out of work and, of course, if you're not familiar with it, then you've been hiding under a rock.
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So, president Donald Trump will exempt automakers from his punishing 25% tariffs on Canada and Mexico for one month, as long as they comply with the terms of an existing free trade agreement.
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According to the White House, trump is also open to hearing about other products that should be exempted from the tariffs, which took effect March 4th.
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The White House said Trump's tariffs pose extreme difficulties for automakers, which produce vehicles in all three countries and often ship parts across North American borders multiple times as they get built up into systems and finished vehicles.
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A one-month exemption for cars and trucks that comply with the US-Mexico-Canada agreements complex content rules, as Trump has outlined would be a boon for Ford, gm and Stellantis, and God knows that Stellantis needs all the help it can get and really doesn't need to be punished anymore, because that would be a real punishment for them, because they're barely hanging on but the profits have slipped 27% or something like that.
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It's bad.
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I feel bad for the great folks that work at Stellantis or used to work at Stellantis that got booted by Carl Carl, carl.
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That was a big mess.
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So anyway, we've got a little reprieve on the tariffs for the automotive industry.
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We'll have to see how that all plays out.
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I think that Mexico was supposed to chime in on Sunday.
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They're supposed to have an announcement.
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What the announcement is, I don't know.
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I understand that the president of Mexico, mrs Steenburgen or whatever her name is, was very, very delighted when she found out that the 25% tariff is going to be held off for another month.
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We'll see how this all works out, but anyway, think about a car company building, let's just say, your car.
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Where was your?
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Buick built.
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I think it was built overseas.
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I think I'm not sure.
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I don't know if it was.
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China or South Korea, I believe.
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So I'll look, but it wasn't built here in the States, assembled, but not part.
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Because manufacturers?
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These days we call them manufacturers because they actually manufacture cars.
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They don't manufacture the parts that make the cars, they farm all that stuff out for the most part.
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Yeah, I heard a commentator, journalist, whatever they are on TV going through that.
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Journalist.
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There aren't any journalists anymore.
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I'm saying a commentator.
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They went through it trying to explain that there are assemblies but the way the tariffs will work will be on some parts, and that there are literally some parts apparently that leave the states, go into Canada, so there's a tariff involved there.
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Then it leaves Canada, goes down to Mexico, so there's another tariff involved there.
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Then it comes back to the states for final assembly and there's another tariff.
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They're trying to figure out how to.
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There's some complications.
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Who gets what tariff.
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It's not just a single tariff.
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There's multiple tariffs.
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If they do it once, it's applied to the process, and so that's part of the reason.
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Apparently they're backing off of this a little bit because there's some unknown or unexpected tariff.
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So why did the manufacturers decide that they needed to assemble cars in Canada and Mexico with the big three?
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Why?
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did they do that?
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I think it's the vendors where the parts are built and how expensive the parts are.
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And where they build them.
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I think that that may have something to do with it, but as far as Units, Well, Mexico is labor, labor rates so much cheaper for property down there, to have a facility down there and just send people down there to help Cost of living, yeah, and the cost of living when they get down there.
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I mean some of the guys I know with a company that for the AT&T, when we were sending people down there, these guys would go down there and they were living like kings because their money would go so much further down there.
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And I'm sure that the auto manufacturers run into the same thing.
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So it's not necessarily a hardship to go down there, but then the people that are actually doing the labor, they work a lot cheaper down there good, bad or ugly, I mean, that's just a fact.
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it is cheaper yep, well, you know a ford had a assembly plant, at least they did last time.
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I looked over in windsor, ontario, right across the river, and I remember they used to have engines the Windsor or the Cleveland and I'm not talking about steamers now, I'm talking about Cleveland Ford engines 351 Cleveland or 351 Windsor.
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Then it depends on where it was, where the metal was squeezed out Really.
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I didn't know that.
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I thought it was something to do with design.
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I think that there may have been some differences in design, but I'm not sure Huh.
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Well, yeah, learn something new every day.
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There are differences between the Cleveland and the Windsor.
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Yeah, I mean, you can't take the intake off of one and put it on the other one yeah, tariffs, tariffs.
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We don't charge tariffs to our audience at all.
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This is free we are going to have somebody with the now that I think about it, the Anderson group.
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We've talked to them before talking about things like that.
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We're going to have them talk about the tariffs and what they have discovered and what they're.
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Why don't you contact the president?
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We'll just get it right from the source.
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You know now that you say that that might be possible.
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I know the last president.
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We had tried to find out something about his Corvette.
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I thought, well, how cool, let's talk about the Corvette man.
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You got to talk to this person.
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You got to talk to that person.
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You got to get any, any, any, you might be able to talk to this guy.
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Well, you know, there's one that just got fired recently.
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We could talk to him.
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Well, that's the one that we couldn't get to before, but maybe we can now.
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Maybe you for work?
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I'm sure Think he knows he has a Corvette.
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I don't know, he doesn't anymore.
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You could teach him to run the board.
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He sold it.
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I don't know, I would assume, teach him to run the board on remotes.
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Oh God, here we go, sorry.
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David, do you think that David is actually listening?
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Oh yeah, he's probably got his two.
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Always.
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No, he's probably not listening.
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David is actually working his real job.
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Oh, that's right, it's.
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Friday.
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It's.
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Friday Forgot.
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So I just got a message here from a listener of ours.
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His name is Mike and he says yes, sir, could you please comment further on the Cleveland Steamer?
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His name is Mike and he says yes, sir, could you please comment further on the Cleveland Steamer.
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It all depends on what steamer you're talking about it runs up and down the Grand Lakes or something.
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Cleveland Steamer, houston Steamer yeah this would be the Cleveland Steamer.
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I always thought that, instead of you know, they had this whole big thing about the Cleveland Indians yeah, I think that you should have named them the Cleveland Steamers.
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That was Mike, wasn't it?
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Indians yeah, I think that you should have named them the cleveland.
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That was mike, wasn't it?
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yeah, okay, he apparently is listening and I'm sure that you know he's doubled over in laughter, I'm sure doubled over, and let's hope he's not in the air while he's texting shooting pains.
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You know, this is one of those weird days that it is, it's friday it's, we're coming in the studio, it's not the 13th, yeah, and we all show up here at 9 o'clock this morning going.
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Why are we?
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here.
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There's usually beer cans tossed around, there's clothing and things we've got to pick up.
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I was going to cut the grass this week, but I'm waiting for it to start growing.
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It's not growing.
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I fertilized this past week.
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That doesn't make it grow, right?
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No?
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no, no, it's a weed and feed is what it is.
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Yeah.
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Kill the trees.
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The lawn.
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You know that it does kill the trees.
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These trees aren't dying.
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