On this episode of In Wheel Time Car talk, our guest is Biff Phillips, the President of the Classic Chevy Car Club. A long time friend of the show, Biff shares the story of the reconstruction of his prized 1955 Chevy, a labor of love that spanned over twelve long years.
Of course we also learn about the Classic Chevy Car Club, an oasis for Tri-Five enthusiasts since 1989, and Biff's candid reflections on the inevitable generational shift within its members.
In the New Car Showroom, it is a review of the 2024 Chevrolet Silverado 2500 4X4 Diesel, a real hauler when it comes to heavy loads.
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Welcome to another In-Wheel Time podcast, a 30-minute mini version of the In-Wheel Time car show that airs live every Saturday morning 8 to 11 am, central Live on iHeart Radio and the Smoke Mirrors Network. It's the In-Wheel Time car talk show Coming up. We talk with the president oh no, the king, potent tape, biff Phillips of the classic Chevy car club. I drove the 2023 Chevy Silverado 3.25 ton. I'll give you my impression of it. We also have the crews in calendar coming up. Conrad has this week in auto history and I'll have you more stories making automotive news headlines this week. It's all just ahead. In this hour of the In-Wheel Time car talk show, howdy, along with Mike out of this world, mars King, conrad DeLong. We always need more. Jeff Zekin, I'm Don Armstrong. Thanks so much for joining us. Now let's look up this man's nose His name is. Biff, phillips Biff, I did not know that your first name is really Greg.
Speaker 2:Well, that's an alias.
Speaker 3:Yes, Didn't they just have a congressional hearing on aliases? Oh no, that was aliens. Yeah, aliens.
Speaker 1:That's it. Well, I mean Biff can be considered an alien. You know, it's good to see you, my friend, and talk to you and hope all is well on your end.
Speaker 2:Yeah, everything's going pretty good. It's still hot for cruises, but we're trying to survive that so we can go on some cruises and, you know, get the club together again.
Speaker 1:Is the AC working in the 55? It is, it is.
Speaker 2:Do you have?
Speaker 1:vintage air in that thing.
Speaker 2:I do Vintage air. Yes, sir.
Speaker 1:So he has a beautiful 55, yellow and white, 210. 210. The two door and it is sweet. It'd be a post right.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I think the 210 meant it was a post. Biff, how long have you?
Speaker 1:had that car.
Speaker 2:I've had the car since about. I bought it in 1990. I worked at Mossie Ozenbeil and a guy I bought from him and drove it for about two years. He was black, with a black, violent interior and then, oh 99, we decided to go ahead and take it apart and build it. So that took 12 years. Well, that's it.
Speaker 4:We don't want to arrest these things.
Speaker 1:Yeah and not only that but we know that. You know project cars like that take some time because you don't have the time, generally speaking, to put all the hundreds of hours that it takes to take a car apart and completely redo it and put it back together.
Speaker 3:I didn't realize he worked at Mossie Ozenbeil in 1990. I was calling on Mossie as a field engineer, you don't recognize Conrad do you From that, from the field engineering?
Speaker 2:But I wasn't sure whether it was there or you know in jail Right here.
Speaker 3:Let me let you look at me from behind.
Speaker 1:Oh my.
Speaker 4:God.
Speaker 1:Oh, here we go. I can tell that this is going south already, so to speak.
Speaker 3:Well, cool. So what's going on with classic Chevrolet Wait?
Speaker 1:before we get to that, I want to know about the car. I want a little bit more detail on the car. So what kind of motors it got in it?
Speaker 2:Well, actually when I bought it it was a 350 four-bolt, and so we pulled it out and went through it and it's a 3-Azre stroker, motor, 700-hour transmission, four nine-inch, it's mini-tubbed, All right, and it runs real good. Yeah, I just put injection on it. I thought about injection and it really helped.
Speaker 1:It did. Reliability or startability.
Speaker 2:Well, yeah, and the mileage is better. I drove it to our last convention along with Star 40 and Sam Marcus in April and it ran real good up there and back.
Speaker 1:And so did Greg Enders have anything to do with any of the rebuild or the transfer from carbureted to injected.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I bought it. He had a white pick up with that injection on it. He took it off, so I bought it from him and put it on my truck. Did he help you? Not at all, imagine that?
Speaker 1:When is the last time you talked to him?
Speaker 2:Actually it was I'll talk about once a week.
Speaker 3:Really, he likes you more than he does. Don. Don hadn't talked to him in a while.
Speaker 1:I haven't talked to him in a while, nor have I seen him in a while. What is he doing?
Speaker 2:Well, he has. You know, he had his shoulder operated on and he's been recovering from that. And then he had COVID. He went to Tennessee a couple of weeks ago and came back with COVID, so he's in the house right now.
Speaker 4:Well, you know you got to bring souvenirs back, that's right.
Speaker 1:Now let's talk about the classic Chevy club. My gosh, I think that that club has been around forever. Am I wrong?
Speaker 2:We founded the club in 1989. That's when it was founded and then we. At that time there were a bunch of clubs in the state. There was Amarillo, san Angelo, dallas, austin, corpus and the Austin Club. They started in 1979. They're probably one of the oldest ones.
Speaker 1:Now, are these all Tri-Five clubs or just classic Shevvies?
Speaker 2:Tri-Five clubs.
Speaker 1:Tri-Fives okay, Not many of them.
Speaker 2:Huh, there's not many of them left, because you know.
Speaker 4:Everybody's dead.
Speaker 2:Well, you know, we've lost Fred Arnold and Kiwi Bowen and a lot of people yeah.
Speaker 1:Well, it goes with the territory. I mean, you know Just age out, yeah, we age out and you know it was. It was my buddy, ross Putnam, that had the 55 that I helped him wrench on back in high school. So I can relate. But back then with the 55, the 56 and the 57, that's what we did in 1969. You know, we worked on other guys, tri-five Shevvies, and so we're all getting older, not newer, and that just kind of goes along with the territory. You got any new members, so to speak?
Speaker 2:We've had a couple of people join and the problem is that the kids nowadays aren't interested in the Tri-Fives, you know. They're interested in the rice burners and the drifting and all that. So it's hard. They like to come to the shows and look at them, but it's hard for a kid to say, okay, I'm going to build a 55 and go drive it.
Speaker 3:Well, why don't you take your 55 out and go drifting?
Speaker 2:I'm done that, but it was an accident.
Speaker 1:Well, I will tell you that, the one thing that I always remember about the 55, and I have not crawled around in one since high school but there sure was a ton of room underneath the hood for a small block Chevrolet. Yeah, easy to work on and lots of other stuff.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you can open the hood and get to anything on the engine. Today's cars is all plastic on top. You can't even see it, but yes.
Speaker 3:The simplicity of the time. So simple, they didn't even have an oil filter. You just put a roll of toilet paper in there.
Speaker 1:Oh Lord, I knew somebody that did that. The toilet paper, the smartest thing to do.
Speaker 3:No, it wasn't because the toilet paper you don't want to use Charmin. You want to use real stiff stuff.
Speaker 1:Yeah, like the stuff that you'd steal out of the Portacans Right.
Speaker 3:That's what I'm talking about. I don't know, Don. I've never stolen toilet paper from a Portacan you have.
Speaker 1:I don't know if I've stolen the toilet paper.
Speaker 3:Or borrowed it.
Speaker 1:We never returned it Back in the day we turned a few over. We never turned any over that had anybody in them, though we never did that.
Speaker 3:Blue man group.
Speaker 1:The blue man group.
Speaker 3:So what's your next upcoming event, Beth?
Speaker 2:Well, probably. There's a club in town here called the Houston area Chevy club and it's all sorts of Chevy's and we go cruising with them a lot of places. We'll make a run up to Brenham and have lunch, but I think the next biggest one, we're going to try to go to Fredericksburg like we used to do.
Speaker 1:Would I be invited to that with my Chevy Beth?
Speaker 2:Beth Beth.
Speaker 1:Yeah, if that would be okay with you, could I tag along yeah?
Speaker 2:We had our last Lone Star convention in April. That was 40 years Started by the Austin club and not in 1973. And so it was started there and 40 years later we ended. So that was a lot of fun every year to get all the clubs around the state and out of state and just spend a weekend, and it was really a lot of fun.
Speaker 1:Beth, what is your regular car that you use every day?
Speaker 2:Before the F-150 pickup Okay, my wife has a car, but I use my truck.
Speaker 3:So are any of your members going to be in Georgetown tomorrow at the Tri-Five meet in the off of Austin Avenue for Classic? I don't think so in Georgetown.
Speaker 2:It's just, you know, we're old folks, it's too hot. Yeah, true, See that you guys are troopers. I've seen you in places but and we're so spread out that's the other part Years ago. You know you can get anywhere in Houston in 30 minutes. Now, with all the population boom, we've got people from Galveston to Brenham in our club.
Speaker 3:You can't get from 610 to Beltway 8 in 30 minutes Pretty much.
Speaker 1:That's right. By the way, you'll be interested to note, or maybe not, that I poked Stan Holt this week to say hey, stan, maybe we need to start talking about a tailpipes and tacos cruise it again. And he said let me look at my calendar. So he's looking at his calendar and I don't know how long it takes to look at the calendar, but we're hoping to get a date out of him for the next tailpipes and tacos and I know that you always attend those events.
Speaker 2:Well, yeah, and I came up with a name, so I feel attached to it. It's your fault.
Speaker 1:It's your fault, and so you need to poke Stan and say hey, Stan, I know that Don reached out to you for a date.
Speaker 2:Well, I texted him one time and said Stan, I need to know what's going on because I've got people calling me towards the third Saturday saying what are you going to do? And for tailpipes and tacos, a lot of people wanted to come and at that time he was racing. Going over his schedule, yeah, and racing. So I said, well, just let me know when we're going to do it, because I can put it out on Facebook, right? So that's all.
Speaker 1:Well, yeah, I know, and so we're at this point. I think that we're looking at maybe somewhere around the first of October, certainly not in August.
Speaker 3:Didn't we get Shirley Moldowney in August when she came down?
Speaker 4:That was August, that was so hot. Hot. Yeah, she was melting, like the rest of us, unfortunately.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's the way it is, well, so is the car in the garage this morning.
Speaker 2:The garage. It's in the garage. Yes, sir, I'll take it out this afternoon. I try to drive it once a week, just, you know, for an hour and a half or so. I call therapy, you know exactly.
Speaker 3:Yeah, you got to keep that therapy for you or for the car.
Speaker 2:For me.
Speaker 1:The car has already been through therapy and it's all well healed. And I guess, what do you do? Just change the oil once a year in the thing.
Speaker 2:No, probably twice a year. I don't go past 3000 miles without changing it every day obviously Right.
Speaker 1:Yeah, well, it's funny because the Corvette it usually is about a year and I'll get a 3000 miles on it and I change it. You know it's an LS1 engine, it doesn't need to be changed to 3000 miles, but I do it anyway.
Speaker 3:Yeah, times up 3000 miles is probably burned two quarts.
Speaker 1:It has not. Doesn't burn any oil.
Speaker 3:What are you?
Speaker 1:talking about.
Speaker 3:Do LS engines burn oil? I have no idea. Yeah, yes, they do.
Speaker 1:Okay, well, mine doesn't, so mine's an anomaly.
Speaker 3:You're a lucky young man.
Speaker 1:Well, it only has 34,000 miles on it. Maybe that has something to do with it.
Speaker 3:And I say young because I know we tend to pick on you about your age. No, you tend to pick, I tend to pick on you about your age. But do you know, this week Mick Jagger turned 80.
Speaker 1:And what am I supposed to say about that?
Speaker 3:He's older than you, shaboop Okay.
Speaker 1:Fine.
Speaker 3:Cause you can't get no satisfaction.
Speaker 1:I can't get no satisfaction, that's because you can't hold the magazine long enough.
Speaker 4:I was with my wife. It's only one handed. My wife asked me who always go beyond the show and I said I was telling her a few things. And I said and Biff's going to finally join us? And she said Biff, the guy from back to the future. And I said no, not that Biff. And she said, oh, never mind.
Speaker 1:Speaking of which, how in the world did you get the nickname of Biff?
Speaker 2:Okay, I had a buddy I worked with. His name was Ralph Singleton, great guy, and his uh, he had a nickname was Radar and we worked together and it seemed like every everyone had to work. There was either a Greg or Craig. Yep, so when people so he said, you know, and we had a guy there, his name was Craig and I was Greg, he said I'm, I've got a buddy of mine and his name is Bill, but his name is a nickname, is Biff. He said I'm going to call you Biff and call him Craig. That was 1975. And it's stuck. It's really. You know, it's kind of a boring thing, but that's exactly how I got my name.
Speaker 4:Just a different HH from the other guy.
Speaker 1:Well, at least he didn't come up with it, somebody else did. Right, that's good, I like it. I've never asked you that question. I didn't know the story.
Speaker 4:No yeah, that's all I ever knew was Biff.
Speaker 2:I get that a lot too. People come by my car and yell out, like you said, back to the future, because they see the plates as Biff 55. And I've been in a parade and go I tell them it's death of a salesman.
Speaker 1:Nice Biff. It's great to talk to you, my friend.
Speaker 2:Hey, it's been fun. Looking forward to going back to Loopy's.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I know Tailpipes and tacos Put the word out Best Tex-Mex in Texas. We're gonna put the squeeze on stand to come up with a date for us. We know that Ennis, the Texas Motorplex, fall Nationals, happens in October, so we got to work around that. But and there's also Halloween, needless to say. But yeah, we got, hopefully. Hopefully we'll get something early in October. Biff, great to talk to you, my friend. Let's stay in touch and we'll see you at the next Tailpipes and Tacos. You bet Enjoyed it. Thank you, I did too. Thanks, it's always good to talk to him. I like him, so laid back and a good car guy from way back. Yep, that's it. Okay, why don't we do the crews in calendar speaking of Tailpipes and Tacos?
Speaker 3:Saturday this afternoon, starting at 11 to 3 pm, is Saturday at the ranch, at the ranch Harley Davidson in College Station, and it's an open cruise in for cars or motorsocks and motorcycles. Tonight nine to excuse me, five to 10 pm is nifty fifties up in the Woodlands. Also tonight, six to seven pm is meet and ride muscle cars at Cox Road and Con Road. It's an open cruise and they're gonna cruise over to nifty fifties. Hot nights and cool tunes at Douglas Street and Alamo Street in Brenham, texas, to cruise in with open parking starting at 6 30 pm and then a summer cruise in at Three Acres Food Truck Park in Santa Fe, texas, is tonight at six to nine. Camaros of Houston cruise to Lake Livingston kicks off tomorrow morning at 9 am and they're gonna leave from the Cinemark at Valley Ranch Parkway in New Caney which is basically the intersection of Beltway 8 and 59, 69, whatever they call that road today Got you East Texas Freeway. Cars and cocktails at Little Woodros starts tomorrow at 11 to 3 pm and that's off of Timbertec Avenue in Tomball. H-town Summer Slab and Bike Fest at 30, 1333, 133, 10 Cullen Boulevard in Houston, 133, 10.
Speaker 1:That would be 13. 310. 310. Yeah, correct. Well, you were correcting Mars earlier, so now it's your turn. Obesidian, obesiden, what did you say Mars? It wasn't obsidian Obesidian.
Speaker 3:I'm working with David Ainslie here, and then, like I mentioned, the BIF is tomorrow, starting at 8 am in Georgetown, texas, is the Tri-Five Meat and that's at 501 South Austin. And then out there in Beaumont tomorrow, starting at 5 pm, is the Shitbox Cruisers Meat and Greet at Texas First Bank in Beaumont, texas.
Speaker 1:We can't say that on the air. We need to scratch the name of that. Yeah, sorry, but that, just that, doesn't cut it. The poop box yeah, okay, well, whatever, but that, yeah, the other one doesn't work.
Speaker 3:I didn't name their club.
Speaker 1:I didn't say that you did. Well, we don't have to say it, but we don't have to say it we don't have to say it, but that's Boma.
Speaker 3:I want you to go by, mike, and say hi.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no better. Yeah, get him to change the name of the car club, so we could talk about him. Yeah, well, that's not anymore. Okay, that's it back to you, Don. Thank you so much time now for this hour's car review. The 2024 Jeffries got an order for some reason, never mind good.
Speaker 4:Do I need to wait for you something?
Speaker 1:Okay, I'll get it time now for this hour's car review the 2024 Chevrolet Silverado 2500, or to us layman, it would be a three-quarter ton pickup truck. Stop Available trim levels on this is the work truck or the WT, the custom, the LT, the LT Z and the high country. The reviewed trim level for this week is the LT Z four-wheel drive Crew cab with the diesel engine, three-quarter ton pickup truck. So there are no mileage ratings for this because it doesn't fall into that category and I don't know who came up with that. Might have been fine, you know, 20 years ago, but it's not fine today. Give us the dang and I will. I'll give you what I got on. How many passengers? Five, including the driver. Exterior changes from last model year. It gets a complete refresh this year, starting with the grill. The Air intake is now located on the leading edge of the front lip of the hood or the bonnet. Is some people?
Speaker 3:needed to get rid of some of that temperature under the hood and it's hot.
Speaker 1:Much better looking grill with an attractive with attractive lighting up front Toe steps on either side of the rear bumper. I think it's a fabulous idea and every pickup truck ought to have them also. This one had the optional Multi-flex tailgate on it as well, and if you're going to buy any kind of a General Motors truck, either with the GMC or the Chevrolet, spend the extra $500 for the tailgate. It's well worth it. Attractive aluminum wheel options, depending on the trim level, and it also has this one an optional fifth wheel connection in the bed. Now the actual fifth wheel itself is not in there, but it has plugged holes drilled in the bed to go into the frame, so it makes it very easy to take those. That's exactly right. Smart it is. It's an option, clearly. What I liked about it? The tough look of this it. It looks so much better than the outgoing model. What could use improvement? Bigger, fatter tire options to fill the wheel wells? And don't tell me we put doolies on it, because I don't.
Speaker 3:I Look the dooly thing that if you're pulling a heavy fifth wheel, there's a reason for a duly traction. Other than that, there's no reason for it, correct?
Speaker 1:It doesn't make any difference. You know, believe me, a single rear wheel back there works just fine. Interior highlights easy to find and use the controls on the dash. It's 747 looking.
Speaker 3:You like that a screen that's on it, I do.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's big new integrated infotainment screen in the center dash with wood accents around it. Course this is One down from the very tip-top level of the high country. The instrument cluster is configurable in this. They, all of these American made trucks, really have Stepped up to the plate and done a wonderful job. Memory trucks used to be just so plain and nothing to steal, dashboards and very minimal gauges is built.
Speaker 3:And the gas tank bounded behind the front seat.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that made a lot of sense. Then rear seat room massive with storage under the seat cushion back there. What I liked about it by see If they would move the gear shift. I would like that they move the gear shift Off of the center console and move it up on the column Because it takes so much room down there. Give me the phone charger, give me cup holders, give me other stuff down here. I don't need the gear shift down there. Or like Ram does with the road.
Speaker 3:Which is brilliant up on the dash it's brilliant.
Speaker 1:Yeah. What could use improvement? How about a knob on the dash, like Ram? That's what I wrote. There you go. The engine is a 6.6 liter v8 turbo diesel. Are we keeping you up? Oh, it is a stump puller 470 horsepower but 975 pound-feet of torque. That's a lot. Transmission 10 speed automatic. Toe rating is 2,000 pounds. I'm sorry, 20,000 pounds, but the fifth wheel only adds 1,500 pounds to the tow rating. That that Transmissions.
Speaker 3:A 10 speed Allison Correct huge difference versus the turbo hydromatic.
Speaker 1:That 10 speed Allison is Virtually bullet a stump puller, as you call it, mm-hmm. It has a 36 gallon fuel tank. I got wow 15.4 miles per gallon over 297.1 miles, it's pretty good for three-quarter ton truck. What I liked about it? The gruntiness of the motor. The gruntiness Try spelling that I MOTOR. Ah, thank you. What could use improvement? A kitchen sink somewhere, Ride and handling it's all about capability. So if you don't pull something or you don't have a big load in the bed, it's stiff period. What could use improvement? An air suspension option.
Speaker 3:Raise and lower it.
Speaker 4:Raise and lower it, but the ride, the ride, that seems to be the go-to. What?
Speaker 1:The suspension, the ride suspension or the.
Speaker 4:There is no.
Speaker 1:Electronic way. There is no option on that Base. Trim price $61,200. Prices tested $83,545. $22,000.
Speaker 3:An option.
Speaker 1:Base model price $46,9. Good luck in trying to find that'd be the work truck $46,9.
Speaker 3:That's the white one with the paint that's going to peel five years from now.
Speaker 1:I didn't say that Competitors to this vehicle in base size and price $45,000 for their three-quarter ton. Remember this one is $46,9. The RAM is $52 starting and the GMC is $80,000 starting. Wow, yeah, a little price variance there. Because they don't have those lower trim levels.
Speaker 4:They don't do a work truck. You start at a higher level, yep.
Speaker 1:Yeah, end at a higher level. Yeah, and that is my review of the Chevy Silverado 2500.
Speaker 3:Speaking about high level. Look who's up next.
Speaker 1:Oh my gosh. Okay, well, we're looking forward to talking to Randy Bortcharding at Penthouse.
Speaker 4:Now you're going to have to explain that to us. No, you are going to have to explain it to us.
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