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Welcome to another In Wheel Time podcast, a 30-minute mini version of the In Wheel Time Car Show that airs live every Saturday morning 8 to 11 am, central.
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Welcome to Hewlett Park in Granbury, texas, and the Lone Star Street Rod Association's 49th annual state run.
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Texas and the Lone Star Street Rod Association's 49th Annual State Run.
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This is the In Wheel Time Car Talk Show.
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Just ahead we've got another attendee from this weekend's big show here in the park.
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Plus, we're going to have a little bit later on the racing calendar and auto history.
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Yes, that's also coming up.
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Howdy Along with Mike out of this world Mars.
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We's also coming up.
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Howdy Along with Mike out of this world Mars.
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We always need more Jeff Zekin and a special appearance by His Majesty David Ainsley, our in-wheel time chief engineer and head bottle washer.
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He brings the pixie dust to the show.
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He does bring the pixie dust You've got to have one of those guys always.
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So thank you, David, and thanks for all the scrambling that was going on all day long.
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It was his nickname Pixie and on my computer that blew up overnight.
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So we just wanted to make all the excuses that we possibly can of how screwed up today's show has become.
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But at any rate, mr Mars, I see we've got another guest in the house.
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Joining us now is Mr Butch Doss, and he's got this 1950 shoebox Ford sitting right back here behind us in a bright red.
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Butch, how do you spell your last name?
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D-a-u-s.
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Just like Hoss, only a D D-O-S-S.
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D-A-U-S.
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Just like Hoss, only a D D-O-S-S, d-o-s-s.
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Yeah, okay, yeah, that color is race red.
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Race red.
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Yeah, and that's a Ford, and a Ford it don't have no Chevrolet motor.
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Wow, god bless you.
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That's the way it's supposed to be Right right.
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And what year is it?
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49?
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It's a 50.
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A 50.
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1950.
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A 50.
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And it's a 50.
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What?
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Well, back then they called them Tudors.
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T-u-d-o-r.
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Yeah, tudors, I don't know why, but Shoebox, I call it a shoebox, yeah that's kind of a common name, that's how I know I couldn't think of the name.
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Yeah Well, you know that kind of really, oh yeah, yeah, it's only one.
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In fact, some of them even had a headlight right there.
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Yeah, my aunt had one like that, like a Tucker.
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Well, I was thinking more along the lines of the Studebaker.
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My brother had a 49 Studebaker with that thing in the middle.
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I get a lot of people that come up to me and they'll say is that a Studebaker?
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And I'll say, no, ma'am, that's a Ford car Right.
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Yeah, and the roof line is the giveaway to me on the side.
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If you didn't know, there's not a Studebaker that looks like that on the side Right.
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Yeah, and I've took both vent windows out, you know.
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Oh, you did.
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They had a front vent and a rear vent and I took it out to sort of make it look like a two-door hardtop.
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Well it out, sort of make it look like a two-door hardtop.
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Well, it looks great it does.
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Now did you do the restoration on that yourself?
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well, I'm a retired firefighter.
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I worked 33 years for the waco fire you know, jackie hansen I'm afraid so but we don't want, oh, we don't want to talk about him.
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No, I just I thought y'all wanted to talk about my car.
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We do.
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I know how you guys are.
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Well my captain in the Waco fire department built hot rods.
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He come up one day in a 55 Crown Vic.
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I told him.
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I said, man, I'd like to get me a hot rod.
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So that's the fourth car me and him has built.
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Now I say me and him, all I did.
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He say, rub here, I'd rub there, I'd take paint off.
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But that car we built, it, painted it, put the motor in it, drive train front end.
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We did all the work ourselves.
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Has it got the original chassis underneath it?
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From the front fender back.
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It's got a new clip under it.
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Got you a front clip.
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Mustang II clip and a Fat man front end, they call it.
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Nice, yes, that's an aftermarket supplier, correct?
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Yes, right.
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And it's got a four link on it.
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Four link For the back and the motor.
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The motor's a Mustang a 5.0.
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A 5.0 Mustang, 3.02 Mustang.
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Fuel injected power, air whole bit.
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Yeah, vintage air.
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How is that vintage air putting it in there?
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It's not too hard to put in, but I don't know A lot of hot rodders.
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We have trouble with our air conditionings, but so far down on this trip that one's been great.
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So where were you from originally?
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Where did you drive it in from Waco?
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area.
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Waco area.
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Yes, sir, I live in a little town called Axtell, right outside of Waco An hour and a half or so yeah about an hour and a half.
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So the Doss sales.
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That's your company.
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That was my dad's business and I was selling pens and pencils and calendars and key rings and matchbooks and embroidery since 1965 myself.
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And I just recently sold the company and you were a firefighter.
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Yes, sir, yeah, praise the Lord for that job.
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Yeah.
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I got married when I was a week out of high school, still suffering with the same woman.
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She's not here, is she Been 58 years?
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Yeah, but she's in town shopping I'm not too worried about this here.
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She might be here listening to us on the app.
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She might be.
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We'll send her a copy.
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She's used to me goofing off.
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So I want to know more about the car.
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Okay.
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So you told me about the motor, the car.
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Did you do any modifications to the engine, or is it just a stock?
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It's a stock Mustang motor fuel-injected Mustang.
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But there's a guy here today and I think y'all have interviewed him before Ben Danford Danford.
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Danford, Danford.
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But a gentleman, he's a black gentleman.
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Yes, that was his high school car, that car.
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I bought that car off of him and the funny thing, the license plate said CAT, c-a-t and then some numbers.
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I've still got the license plate at home.
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But my other buddy here that's driving that yellow 48 Ford over there here, that's driving that yellow 48 ford over there.
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He, he wanted, ben danford wanted a coke box that my partner had, david kirk.
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So I had to give ben danford 750 dollars for the car and then I had to give david kirk 750 dollars for the coke box.
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The coke box went to ben, so that's been a waco car for quite a while.
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Proudly so.
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Yes, sir, you notice how he refers to people.
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My buddy over here with a 49er and my buddy over there.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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That's what it's all about.
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Another unique little feature on my car.
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Of course the headlights and the taillights are both French and the license plate light's French.
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But the hood, the pinstriping, if you get a close look at it, I got a guitar in there.
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I'm a bluegrass gospel guitar picker and dobro player and harmonica, and all that and fact that night over here at the hotel we get our guitars out and jam was that you?
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Last night that we heard, I'm afraid.
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So was it bad.
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It was bad, okay, okay, yeah, it was, it was.
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It was bad, okay, okay.
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Yeah, I didn't hear it.
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It was very electric from the place I had to go.
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He's the one I didn't hear it.
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I kept you all up at night.
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No, you did good.
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We're just playing with you, but you know that.
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But the car's all it's built, not bought.
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Right, but I don't mean to be picking on the motor, but what year is the motor?
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You know, I'm not real sure.
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Where did you buy it from, I?
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bought it from an individual in Dawson, texas, and he just put an ad in there for a Mustang motor.
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I think it's about a 90s somewhere along in there.
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Okay 302.
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Gotcha 5.0 fuel injected.
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I was just going to say so.
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It's an early fuel injected car.
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Yes, sir.
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Yeah, not an SVT, nothing like that.
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No, no, no, no.
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It's not a.
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Cobra or anything special, but it runs good, sounds good.
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It gets me there and back and you drive it.
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I do drive it.
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That's not a trailer queen, I drive it.
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That's good.
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Yeah.
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On nice days.
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Well, I drove it in the rain.
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Does the windshield wipers work?
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They work, but not very good.
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I was just going to say are they still vacuum operated?
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No, they're electric, they are yeah.
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Yeah, Because I think that that car had vacuum operated wipers if I'm not mistaken, it did.
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Yeah, what a pain in the butt that was.
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Don't step on the gas when you've got a big rainstorm going on because you are blind.
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Brainstorm going on because you are blind.
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Yeah, exactly now.
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Uh, how, how difficult it is to find body parts for that thing damn near impossible.
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Well, I got another buddy's got a wrecking yard, he's got two or three of them in there, but uh, I know a guy I know a guy that's the most.
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Usually, when we build one, we put the feelers out for parts.
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You know If you'll notice my airbrush chrome?
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Yes, and the forward emblem on the side, yeah.
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Now, if I was to have a wreck, that would be hard to redo.
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Well, who painted that on there?
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Another buddy.
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Yeah, well, why would it be so hard to do?
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I realize that it's a lot of.
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Have you ever dealt with artists and pinstripers?
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Yes, I have that's why it's difficult right, yeah, yeah.
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So is he still around and upholstery people.
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Yes, sir, he's still around.
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Yeah Well, that's beautiful work.
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To be honest with you, I didn't look.
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Of course I can't A little farther away Another buddy of yours, two of them, in fact.
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The one on the left, one got the wrecking yard.
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If y'all need any parts, that's good to know Now, was that airbrushed side piece on there?
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Did that actually have that Ford emblem up in it originally?
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No.
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That's my touch.
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I like that a lot.
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I'm a good designer.
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I can't do nothing without my buddy helping me.
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You know welding or cutting or none of that stuff.
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You've got a good imagination, I get some good ideas, you know.
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Yeah, that's good, I like it a lot.
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Now that car.
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If you'll notice the back of it, I've got a sticker on it called Red Rider.
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Okay, okay, red Rider in the 50s was a cowboy star, you know western, I do know.
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He had a little buddy named Little Beaver.
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Robert Blake paid Little Beaver and I've got a rat rod at home, 50 model Ford that I call Little Beaver, so that's Red Ryder.
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And then I got Little Beaver in the garage.
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It's got a.
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I told you there was a story about it.
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It's got an inline six with two one barrels.
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Yeah, what kind of manifolds.
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You got uh edelbrock and are you sure, it's often, often, often now, because I had two one barrels.
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uh, it's got a beer keg for a gas tank, 37 lights, 29 grill shell, a four foot wrench for the back bumper and I got JR Cash, one piece at a time, painted on it.
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That's my idea, you got it from a buddy of his but anyway, I may have it here next year, I hope.
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You should bring it.
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I don't think there's another little beaver out here.
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You should bring it.
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No, there's no beavers out here.
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I've been looking.
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Doss Sales Company.
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Yes, sir, is it still in business?
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Yes, sir, sort of I'm still selling, but I did sell my company.
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It's now Pioneer Sales and Promotions Waco Texas.
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I always remember the hand that gives gathers, so that's my motto on advertising promotional items.
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Remember that, David, because I won't.
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He's got some oriental woofel dust over where he'll sprinkle on that sail when, I leave.
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Uh-huh, yeah, yeah.
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So the wheels.
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The wheels.
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They're stock.
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No yeah.
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They had trim rings on them.
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Well, yes, sir, no, they're stock.
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No, yeah, they had trim rings on them.
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Well, yes, sir, no, no, no, the trim rings are okay, but I had wide whites on it and I blew one out during COVID and I could not get one ordered nowhere.
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So I bought some cheap black walls and I hadn't gone back, switched back, yet I hadn't switched back yet, because it's the money situation.
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Are you going to switch back to whites?
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I hadn't switched back yet, because it's the money situation.
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Yeah, oh yeah, I'll put some wide whites on it probably.
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I think they look pretty cool.
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Yeah, because I like that look too.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, because back in the day the wide whites meant you had money and those were fixed up.
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Dolled up cars.
